Speaking from his own personal experience Swiss Zen Priest Vanja Palmers was not able to induce the same meditative states with practicing meditation than with Psilocybin

Last Updated on March 4, 2024 by pg@petergamma.org

But Vanja Palmers knows many who where able to do so. Vanja Palmers talks about scientific studies in which he participated where also meditators participated that where very experienced with meditation, and they where eventually able to produce extraordinary meditative states by practicing meditation, but had zero experience with drugs. And for these scientific studies where Vanja Palmers also participated in Switzerland, they did not find 40 of such people, they eventually only found 39.