Peter Gamma (Physiologist & Director) Meditation Research Institute Switzerland (MRIS)

450.02 Linux AsteroidOS watches

“built like an embedded Linux distribution with OpenEmbedded”

  1. Installing Linux AsteroidOS on the Kingwear KW88 Pro Android watch:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/other-smartwatches/kw88-pro-asteroidos-linux-distribution-t4171413/post83624245#post83624245

2. The KingWear KW88 Pro can be found starting from US $77.34 on Aliexpress:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000458872070.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.7e8242456GZTBN&ad_pvid=2020100309413611766463311152000007186700_1&s=p

3. Asteroid OS on LG G watch (long thread on xda developers)

https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/g-watch/rom-asteroid-os-os-source-android-wear-t3238428

Linux AsteroidOS 1.0 how to resize the apps to fit the watch screen

One problem of Linux AteroidOS 1.0 is how to resize the apps to fit the watch screen. Here is descibed how this is done for the PinePhone:

https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=11552

Linux AsteroidOS 1.0 on LG Watch Urbane?

https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/watch-urbane/lg-watch-urbane-linux-asteroidos-t4172625

LG watch Urbane has no GPS. With the software links on my GITHUB, it is possible to make an Open Source Linux Sports watch out of this watch. Then, a Bluetooth low energy foot pod can be used, which saves battery life compaired to GPS, and is more accurate than GPS. Battery life of the LG watch Urbane with Linux AsteroidOS 1.0 is about two days according to a reviewer.

LG watch Urbane and LG watch R, both have Bluetooth low energy and WIFI support, wich is supported by Linux AsteroidOS 1.0

AsteroidOS IRC Logs

Log files of AsteroidOS IRC chats

https://log.asteroidos.org/

Installing Linux AsteroidOS on the Kingwear KW88 Pro Android watch

https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/other-smartwatches/kw88-pro-asteroidos-linux-distribution-t4171413/post83624245#post83624245

Kingwear KW99 vs KW88

Kingwear K88 Battery life:

“The KingWear KW88 Pro has a 350mAh lithium-ion battery. The manufacturer claims that the battery can last for up to 3 days with normal use but our results were contrary to this. When using Wi-Fi, the battery lasted for a day and using it without the Wi-Fi, the battery lasted for 2 to 2.5 days. You can recharge the smartwatch with the help of the OTG cable that comes with it.”

https://www.xiaomitoday.com/kingwear-kw88-pro-review/

The LG watch G with Linux Asteroid has a battery life of ca 2 days. The Asteroid OS ICS chat says, battery life is much shorter, when an Asteroid OS watch is always running, for instance for sensor data aquisition.

Ticwatch Pro 2000 with Linux Asteroid OS? ( copied from Asteroid OS IRC chat)

here is also a sophisticated custom ROM for the TicWatch Pro (model 2000, with 1 GB RAM and Snapdragon Wear 4100 processor, which is super fast):

https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/other-smartwatches/rom-kernel-t3821013/post83727583

Is the new TicWatch Pro not better than for instance the Kingwear K88 Pro, which has if I understood it right a messy Bluetooth stack? With a Linux port of this custom ROM, I would be completely happy.

MagneFire

19:05:49

kiwi_75: Hey 👋. For porting AsteroidOS to the TicWatch Pro someone would actually need that watch. And start porting it. It would definitely be better that the KW88 Pro. The mediatek based watches have horrible source code (when the code is even available).

But then again someone would actually have to own the watch and have sufficient amount of time to start the porting process, which will take quite some time.

@kido

Florent Revest

19:30:54

ticwatch e/s were mediatek

New Xiaomi Smart watch or new Fossile watch for Linux Asteroid OS?

MagneFire s (Asteroid OS IRC chat) tip to wait and see for these new watches.

17.10.2020

New Xiaomi Mi Watch

https://www.techradar.com/news/xiaomi-mi-watch

available on Aliexpress.com:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000966000998.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5e8d13d5ZiGgzd&algo_pvid=219d844e-3c5e-480d-a959-af8fb7c0e529&algo_expid=219d844e-3c5e-480d-a959-af8fb7c0e529-17&btsid=0b0a555a16131246005807439ed8ae&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

and on ebay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/313413751270?ul_noapp=true

21.2.2021

porting status of Asteroid OS:

https://asteroidos.org/wiki/porting-status/

the porting status of AsteroidOS seems not be up to date, newer watches are missing, for instance the Kingwear KW88

8.4.2021

For LG watch G, there are confirmed installations at XDA developers, also in Polish:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-alpha-wip-asteroid-os-new-os-open-source-non-android-wear.3238428/

9.4.2021

Chandler Swift wrote a blog how to install AsteroidOS on the Kingwear KW88 Pro:

https://chandlerswift.com/2020/07/12/asteroidos-on-kw88-pro.html

https://www.chandlerswift.com/2020/07/14/impressions-of-asteroidos.html

but unfortunately, If I understood it right, according to the Asteroid IRC chat, the Bluetooth stack of the Kingwear KW88 Pro is a mess. Unfortunately, there seems to be no new watch available with a mature Asteroid port. But there are older devices on ebay, for instance LG watch R or LG watch Urbane with mature installation.

9.4.2021 5:40

Note also Chandler Swifts blog “Notes on Building AsteroidOS”

https://chandlerswift.com/2021/04/06/building-asteroidos.html

Published April 06, 2021 on Chandler Swift’s Blog

Mentioned April 09, 2021 on Peter Gamma’s Blog

Chandler Swift build server:

Is available at: home.chandlerswift.com/asteroid/

Peter Gamma 9.4.2021 10:25

Linux AsteroidOS on LG G Watch

https://life-is-a-project.de/lg-g-watch/

Peter Gamma 10.4.2021 10:29

NASA (National Aeronautics and Space Administration) also has an Asteroid watch:

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/asteroid-watch

NASA’s stone watch face is really extraordinary.

Peter Gamma 10.4.2021 10:46

How to log the #AsteroidOS chat to a computer:

AsteroidOS has no forum. I asked for one in the chat, but there seems to be on easy solution.

Therefore I registered a nickname at freenode.net, according to this instruction:

I went to:

https://webchat.freenode.net/

then to # coolcsm

in the video is explained how to register a permanent nickname at freenode.net, which is necessary for a permanent identity in the # asteroid channel.

I could register with the message:

/msg NickServ Register password your@mail.com

then I received a confirmation mail. Everything is very basic.

It is possible to see the log files in the #asteroid chat. But to search there for a topic is tricky.

Therefore I downloaded the Xchat software. I could login freenode.net and join the channel #asteroid, and write a message there. But I could not see the chat.

In a second window I could see the chat, but it was not possible to write there. As a temporary solution, I can now log the chat with Xchat to my computer. There is an option to do this in the settings of Xchat. Then it is possible to search the chat log file on my computer. To chat I will use the web login for now.

Maybe a chat software expert finds an easier solution?

Peter Gamma 10.4.2021 13:00

Review from Leszek Lesner: Asteroid OS 1.0 auf LG G Watch

Leszek, a reviewer who does his reviews with the heart

listen also to his review on RadioTux Sendung Juni 2018:

https://www.radiotux.de/index.php?serendipity%5Baction%5D=search&serendipity%5BsearchTerm%5D=asteroidos&serendipity%5BsearchButton%5D=Los%21

unfortunately, only for Germin speaking persons.

Peter Gamma 10.4.2021 17:10

Linux AsteroidOS watches & Linux phones as Garmin device alternatives?

How many Peloton project are available on the planet? But is there one which allows easy access to physiological sensor data? It is time for an open source project. These devices have a great potential. How many smart developers work hard for their projects, and offer their results open source on their GITHUB pages? When all the software components which are listed for instance on my GITHUB page :

https://github.com/PeterGamma

are integrated into these Linux devices, and when they are combined with the user interface of the AsteroidOS watches, they become attractive for the general public. Developement of Linux devices progresses slowly, since they are non-commercial products. But I am convinced, that open source sports devices with external sports sensors will be successful on the long-term, as Linux is successful as an operating system on the long-term.

Peter Gamma 11.4.2021 00:03

Threads about Linux AsteroidOS watches on XDA developers:

1. LG G Watch (dory): [ROM][ALPHA][WIP] — Asteroid OS \\ New OS \\ Open Source \\ Non-Android Wear:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-alpha-wip-asteroid-os-new-os-open-source-non-android-wear.3238428/

2. LG G Watch R (lenok): AsteroidOS on lg watch r

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/asteroidos-on-lg-watch-r.3663083/

3. LG G Watch R (lenok) [ROM][ALPHA][WIP] — Asteroid OS \\ New OS \\ Open Source \\ Non-Android Wear

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-alpha-wip-asteroid-os-new-os-open-source-non-android-wear.3601171/

4. LG Watch Urbane (bass): AsteroidOS 1.0 released

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/asteroidos-1-0-released.3791430/

5. LG Watch Urbane (bass): Have to manually boot every time (fastboot flash boot && fastboot continue)

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/have-to-manually-boot-every-time-fastboot-flash-boot-fastboot-continue.3935535/

6. Linux AsteroidOS 1.0 on LG G Watch R (lenok) & Urbane (bass)?

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/linux-asteroidos-1-0-on-lg-watch-r-urbane.4172625/

7. Installing AsteroidOS (full Linux distribution) on the Kingwear KW88 Pro?:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/installing-asteroidos-full-linux-distribution-on-the-kingwear-kw88-pro.4171413/page-2

and finally the

8. Linux AsteroidOS IRC chat:

https://asteroidos.org/contact/

AsteroidOS device thread at XDA developers is here now:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/asteroidos-devices-at-xda-developers.4261421/

Peter Gamma 11.4.2021 2:58

To use the IRC chat of #asteroid with Mozilla Thunderbird:

https://asteroidos.org/contact/

I used Mozilla Thunderbird according to the following instruction:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/instant-messaging-and-chat

I could login without any problems, write to the chat, read the chat, and everything is colorful and full of smileys. That is what I was looking for. Maybe this instruction is helpful for other persons, which have problems to access the #asteroid IRC chat messages and log them to a computer.

Peter Gamma 11.4.20121 6:02

Correct Labelling of AsteroidOS (from Wikipedia)

“AsteroidOS is built like an embedded Linux distribution with OpenEmbedded [8] It works on top of the Linux kernel and the systemd service manager.[9] AsteroidOS also includes various mobile Linux middlewares originally developed for Mer and Nemo Mobile such as lipstick and MCE.[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AsteroidOS

Peter Gamma 12.4.2021 00:33

LINKS AsteroidOS

Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AsteroidOS/

GITHUB:

https://github.com/AsteroidOS/

Mastodon:

https://fosstodon.org/@AsteroidOS

Twitter: