Last Updated on February 4, 2025 by pg@petergamma.org
These numbers strongly vary. How long has a comedian to visit a psychotherapist until he is able to joke about psychotherapy?
13 years
Woody Allen made 13 years of Classical Freudian Psychoanalysis before he was able to joke about: it:
This fit s very well to the figures and numbers we have given before about meditation and psychotherapy:
https://petergamma.org/category/meditation
20 minutes of daily meditation practice for Richard R. Davidson:
And around 13 years of full-time training for those who want the real thing.
Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche meditated in solitary retreat for 13 years:
Until he wanted to stay there for the rest of his life.
This is only data from one subject. But Peter Gamma from www.petergamma.org has found similar numbers from other sources from other spiritual traditions and countries.
And do we really need more data then the user report of Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche who did a 13 years of full-time training to become enlightened which is according to the Buddhist teachings equivalent to be completely mentally healthy?
And former neuroscientist Peter Gamma from www.petergamma.org
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who never had the goal to become a comedian is asking the question. Where are the medical doctors in Switzerland and elsewhere who teach this to their patients?