Issues of OpenBCI Cyton described by Robert Oostenveld Associate Principal Investigator at Donders Institute for Brain, Cognition and Behaviour in Nijmegen, the Netherlands

Last Updated on August 24, 2024 by pg@petergamma.org

Robert Oostenveld answered to our questions on his blog:

“Hi Peter,

I have not used the OpenBCI Cyton for a while, but specific problems which I recall and saw others struggle with include the following:

  • The connectivity with the dongle is not so stable, sometimes requiring multiple attempts to connect, resetting the board, replugging the dongle, etc.
  • The Cyton exposes a lot of details of the Ti-ASD1299 chip, which makes it difficult to make the right choice in configuring the board and hence increases the risk of a suboptimal or incorrect configuration.
  • The technical documentation and design of the PCB has some errors (on SRB1/SRB2), which don’t matter if you only care about getting “some signal” but which cause polarity to be flipped.
  • The wifi shield only works sporadically and hence cannot be relied on.
  • The software ecosystem is rather spotty, there are multiple subprojects that are not functional and seem abandoned.
  • This is not to say that I am complaining about the Cyton: it is not expensive, it is open hardware and source and it is possible with all open information to debug everything.
  • However, I had expected or hoped that by now (after 9 years of its initial release) there would have been a version 2 of the Cyton board with improved usability.
  • For me it felt that I was spending more time trying to debug than doing EEG, hence I moved on to other systems:

– the Ganglion (with lower SNR, fewer channels but more usable)
– and the Unicorn Black by g.tec medical (overall cheaper, more complete as a set, and

easier to use).

best,

Robert “